Hi Dave,
Thanks for your thoughts on the engine. I hope it works out as it
sounds. I will say that I am no engine expert, but I have been around
this airplane stuff for at least 35 years. I have seen and heard a lot
of promises from engine and aircraft developers that never quite lived
up to the billing ! You are right about one thing, you will have a
great toy if the engine lives up to expectations. If I were a betting
man, I would bet against it even though my heart wants it to work out.
It seems like a lot of horsepower for it's size unless it takes really
destructive high RPM to make the hp. If that is the case then there
may be multiple problems incurred as well as the reduction drive being
the next problem. I do hope you will keep us informed of the other
guys engines, sure would be good to dyno the little guys to see if
they produce as claimed. I would be tempted to put an Onan in to see
if you like it. That would save you $6,000.00 right up front ! Maybe
even more if you can find a good used one cheap to try. Fly that one
for a while, wait and see if the new engine has any problems. If not
change over, sell the Onan, get the new one and you are off. I sure
made that sound easy, didn't I? I know most people want to install the
final engine up front, but if the new one does not work out, then you
will be changing anyway, but you will be a lot poorer ( $ ) at the end
of the process. This is just my thoughts anyway. Don't let me
discourage anyone, I just want you to get your moneys worth and be
happy in the end.
Larry H.
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, 'davedrosen' <d2r@t...> wrote:
>
> Larry,
> I've spoke to some people using this engine. It is a risk, because
> if I bought one today it would be one of the first 100 engines sold.
> I've heard several things about it. In some ways the engine is too
> new and is a being sold a little early in my opinion. So far my
> dealings with the owner of the company has been good. There are now
> others useing the engine and it is going well. I speak to several of
> the people who have one every now and then. The reason I chose this
> one is that there aren't very many choices out there in this horse
> power range that are also 4 stroke. My weed wacker has convinced me I
> want a 4 stroke, it's my pink butt on the line. I also looked into
> the Great plains VW. I believe this is a good choice for some
> airplanes but is too heavy for a Q1 if I wanted a starter and
> accessories. The only other option was the HKS. Until recently, I
> didn't see much support in the US, although this has changed of late
> with a new US rep. I didn't see any engine mount support with HKS
> either. Hexadyne has worked very well and closely with me to design
> my engine mount. I guess I won't cast my vote till I plop down the 9K
> for the engine, but this is a lot of money and I believe very pricey
> for this size engine, so I'm watching how others are supported and
> treated by the factory. I don't really want to change at this time,
> but I still can if I must. This is why I'm watching others who are
> working with the engine. It's a good thing that the aviation
> community is small and well connected to each other. I think if this
> engine works out, I will have quite the toy. I also like some of it's
> features, such as the single leaver throttle, full fadec, real fuel
> injection, alternator etc., all at just a bit more heavier than the
> onan. The factory lent me the mock engine to make my cowling. Their
> support in this area has also been very good. So I keep my ears to
> the ground and if I hear good from the thoes out there I will
> continue with my plans to use this engine. I will keep everyone
> posted on how my experiences are. Hope this gives you a bit of insite
> as to my thinking. Comments are welcome. I do have access where I
> work to A&P's, DER's, DAR's, etc, this too will help.
>
> Regards,
> Dave R.
> Q1
> Texas
>
>
>
>
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, 'laheze' <laheze@e...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. I think your instrument panel is fine, I
> thought
> > the GPS right below was probably a radio also, that is why I was
> > guessing the upper right was an auto pilot.
> > What do you know about this engine? Do you know anyone using one? If
> > so how do they like it? I am not sure I remember anything about this
> > engine. I saw one in your photos section. did that one belong to
> > someone else? $ 8,800.00 sure seems expensive for a two cylinder
> > engine. I know if it is a really good and reliable engine then maybe
> > it is worth it. I know it wouldn't work on this plane but heck you
> can
> > buy a low time 2000 hour TBO 160hp Lycoming for less than that. Have
> > you totally ruled out the Onan that the plane was originally
> designed
> > around? Do you just think you need a lot more power or do you think
> > the Onan is not reliable?
> > Thanks
> > Larry H.
> >
> >
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> > >
> > > Larry,
> > > Funny you should ask, as I work for an autopilot company (S-
> Tec),
> > > but I'm saving that for my next airplane. That is an XCOMM760,
> It's
> > > a relatively new Aussie Company. This radio has more output power
> on
> > > the transmitter, can receive NOAA weather channels, and can
> listen
> > > to VOR's. It also has an intercom built in (I can talk to
> myself?)
> > > and an external music input. I've powered it up and it seems to
> be
> > > as advertised. Some may think the panel is overkill, but I want
> to
> > > be able to go anywhere. The engine spec's are below, off of their
> > > website.
www.hexatronengineering.com/prod02.htm
> > > Dave R.
> > > Texas
> > > Q1
> > >
> > >
> > > Hexadyne Aviation P60 air-cooled engine
> > > SPECIFICATIONS
> > >
> > > 60 HP (62 BHP for short periods of time)
> > > Four stroke OHV - 4 valves/cylinder
> > > Air cooled
> > > Displacement 800 cc
> > > Compression ratio - 9 to 1
> > > Cylinder bore: 3.625'
> > > Rated power - 60 HP @ 5750 rpm
> > > Cruise power (75% of max) 45 HP
> > > Crankshaft @ 5750 rpm = 2300 rpm prop speed
> > > Induction system: Single throttle or (optional) Dual throttle
> > > Electronic ignition
> > > Fuel injection
> > > Fuel - Mogas or LL Ethanol-free
> > > Consumption: 3 gallons per hour
> > > Engine Management System: Computer controlled with 6-sensor
> inputs
> > > Size, approx. 23.5 inches wide 19 inches deep and 16 inches high
> > > 68 to 70 inch propeller
> > > 2.5 to 1 spur gear reduction drive
> > > total weight - 98 lbs. (44.5 kg) total weight - 98 lbs. (44.5
> kg)
> > > total installation weight includes alternator, electric starter,
> > > engine management system, oil tank (filter and oil - pressure fed
> > > system) connector pipes
> > > Warranty for 2 years against defective parts
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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, 'laheze' <laheze@e...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > The new panel looks really great. Is that an autopilot on the
> top
> > > > right ? Sorta looks like one from a distance ! Keep up the good
> > > work.
> > > > I have never heard you say what engine you will be using. Can
> you
> > > tell
> > > > us about it's weight and HP.
> > > > Larry H.
> > > > Rockwall tx
> > > >
> > > >
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, 'davedrosen' <d2r@t...>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > All,
> > > > > I got my panel back from gettin powder coated. I posted a
> > > picture in
> > > > > the photos section. It's called Q1 panel it's in the Dave R
> Q1
> > > photos
> > > > > folder. I'm pleased with it's looks. The empty cutout is for
> a
> > > Taskem
> > > > > EFI instrument. It gives RPM, Vert speed. alt. egt and cht on
> 2
> > > > > cylinders and other stuff. I'll order it soon, after tax
> return.
> > > > > Dave R.
> > > > > Texas
> > > > > Q1