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18 years 9 months ago #300
by davedrosen
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Ryan (and others),
I noticed on the quickiebuilders list you had a VW with a 52' prop.
Was that prop centerline higher than the onan center line? Did you
have the bigger wheels? I put my bird with the prop flange
perendicular to the earth, subtracted 9' and got 50' diameter. I'm
figuring I will need to use this as my max if I want to maintain the
9' clearance eaa recommends. I'm wondering is the 9'clearance a good
value for this airplane, I'm thinking bouncing in a landing etc?
How many horses do you figure you had with the VW running at 2300 RPM?
Was 120 your max speed with this set up?
Thanks
Dave R
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----Lookin into props..... TYPE B, Powerfin, 4 or five blade.
I noticed on the quickiebuilders list you had a VW with a 52' prop.
Was that prop centerline higher than the onan center line? Did you
have the bigger wheels? I put my bird with the prop flange
perendicular to the earth, subtracted 9' and got 50' diameter. I'm
figuring I will need to use this as my max if I want to maintain the
9' clearance eaa recommends. I'm wondering is the 9'clearance a good
value for this airplane, I'm thinking bouncing in a landing etc?
How many horses do you figure you had with the VW running at 2300 RPM?
Was 120 your max speed with this set up?
Thanks
Dave R
Q1
Texas
----Lookin into props..... TYPE B, Powerfin, 4 or five blade.
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18 years 9 months ago #301
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Replied by Tri-Q1 on topic Q1_Aircraft: Re: Props
Dave,
I had the large 5' wheel and 12' tire mod. I did not have 9' of ground
clearance on the 52' prop. You can see that my VW engine fit in the
original Q1 cowl. A direct drive VW engine will run @ 3200 rpm all day
depending on prop pitch. A VW bug on the highway at 65 mph is turning
3250 rpm .
I saw 135 mph with my 1915cc engine as a tail dragger and 125 as a tri-
gear.
At 2300 rpm you must have a long prop or a lot of pitch.
Ryan
--- In This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. , 'davedrosen' <d2r@t...> wrote:
> Ryan (and others),
> I noticed on the quickiebuilders list you had a VW with a 52' prop.
> Was that prop centerline higher than the onan center line? Did you
> have the bigger wheels? I put my bird with the prop flange
> perendicular to the earth, subtracted 9' and got 50' diameter. I'm
> figuring I will need to use this as my max if I want to maintain the
> 9' clearance eaa recommends. I'm wondering is the 9'clearance a good
> value for this airplane, I'm thinking bouncing in a landing etc?
> How many horses do you figure you had with the VW running at 2300
RPM?
> Was 120 your max speed with this set up?
>
> Thanks
> Dave R
> Q1
> Texas
>
> ----Lookin into props..... TYPE B, Powerfin, 4 or five blade.
I had the large 5' wheel and 12' tire mod. I did not have 9' of ground
clearance on the 52' prop. You can see that my VW engine fit in the
original Q1 cowl. A direct drive VW engine will run @ 3200 rpm all day
depending on prop pitch. A VW bug on the highway at 65 mph is turning
3250 rpm .
I saw 135 mph with my 1915cc engine as a tail dragger and 125 as a tri-
gear.
At 2300 rpm you must have a long prop or a lot of pitch.
Ryan
--- In This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. , 'davedrosen' <d2r@t...> wrote:
> Ryan (and others),
> I noticed on the quickiebuilders list you had a VW with a 52' prop.
> Was that prop centerline higher than the onan center line? Did you
> have the bigger wheels? I put my bird with the prop flange
> perendicular to the earth, subtracted 9' and got 50' diameter. I'm
> figuring I will need to use this as my max if I want to maintain the
> 9' clearance eaa recommends. I'm wondering is the 9'clearance a good
> value for this airplane, I'm thinking bouncing in a landing etc?
> How many horses do you figure you had with the VW running at 2300
RPM?
> Was 120 your max speed with this set up?
>
> Thanks
> Dave R
> Q1
> Texas
>
> ----Lookin into props..... TYPE B, Powerfin, 4 or five blade.
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18 years 9 months ago #303
by Tri-Q1
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Subject: Re: [Q1_Aircraft] Re: Props
>
> Ryan,
> How much ground clearance did you have? .............5'
Did it work out for you at the distance you chose? ...........Yes
Was your prop on the same center line as the original onan?...........Yes
> Thanks
> Dave R.
> <tt>
> Dave,<BR>
> <BR>
> I had the large 5' wheel and 12' tire mod. I did not have
> 9' of ground <BR>
> clearance on the 52' prop. You can see that my VW engine
> fit in the <BR>
> original Q1 cowl. A direct drive VW engine will run @ 3200
> rpm all day <BR>
> depending on prop pitch. A VW bug on the highway at 65 mph
> is turning <BR>
> 3250 rpm .<BR>
> <BR>
> I saw 135 mph with my 1915cc engine as a tail dragger and
> 125 as a tri-<BR>
> gear. <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> At 2300 rpm you must have a long prop or a lot of
> pitch.<BR>
> <BR>
> Ryan<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> --- In This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. , 'davedrosen'
> <d2r@t...> wrote:<BR>
> > Ryan (and others),<BR>
> > I noticed on the quickiebuilders list you had a VW
> with a 52' prop. <BR>
> > Was that prop centerline higher than the onan center
> line? Did you <BR>
> > have the bigger wheels? I put my bird with the prop
> flange <BR>
> > perendicular to the earth, subtracted 9' and got 50'
> diameter. I'm <BR>
> > figuring I will need to use this as my max if I want to
> maintain the <BR>
> > 9' clearance eaa recommends. I'm wondering is the
> 9'clearance a good <BR>
> > value for this airplane, I'm thinking bouncing in a
> landing etc?<BR>
> > How many horses do you figure you had with the VW
> running at 2300 <BR>
> RPM? <BR>
> > Was 120 your max speed with this set up?<BR>
> > <BR>
> > Thanks<BR>
> > Dave R<BR>
> > Q1<BR>
> > Texas<BR>
> > <BR>
> > ----Lookin into props..... TYPE B, Powerfin, 4 or five
> blade.<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Q1_Aircraft] Re: Props
>
> Ryan,
> How much ground clearance did you have? .............5'
Did it work out for you at the distance you chose? ...........Yes
Was your prop on the same center line as the original onan?...........Yes
> Thanks
> Dave R.
> <tt>
> Dave,<BR>
> <BR>
> I had the large 5' wheel and 12' tire mod. I did not have
> 9' of ground <BR>
> clearance on the 52' prop. You can see that my VW engine
> fit in the <BR>
> original Q1 cowl. A direct drive VW engine will run @ 3200
> rpm all day <BR>
> depending on prop pitch. A VW bug on the highway at 65 mph
> is turning <BR>
> 3250 rpm .<BR>
> <BR>
> I saw 135 mph with my 1915cc engine as a tail dragger and
> 125 as a tri-<BR>
> gear. <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> At 2300 rpm you must have a long prop or a lot of
> pitch.<BR>
> <BR>
> Ryan<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> --- In This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. , 'davedrosen'
> <d2r@t...> wrote:<BR>
> > Ryan (and others),<BR>
> > I noticed on the quickiebuilders list you had a VW
> with a 52' prop. <BR>
> > Was that prop centerline higher than the onan center
> line? Did you <BR>
> > have the bigger wheels? I put my bird with the prop
> flange <BR>
> > perendicular to the earth, subtracted 9' and got 50'
> diameter. I'm <BR>
> > figuring I will need to use this as my max if I want to
> maintain the <BR>
> > 9' clearance eaa recommends. I'm wondering is the
> 9'clearance a good <BR>
> > value for this airplane, I'm thinking bouncing in a
> landing etc?<BR>
> > How many horses do you figure you had with the VW
> running at 2300 <BR>
> RPM? <BR>
> > Was 120 your max speed with this set up?<BR>
> > <BR>
> > Thanks<BR>
> > Dave R<BR>
> > Q1<BR>
> > Texas<BR>
> > <BR>
> > ----Lookin into props..... TYPE B, Powerfin, 4 or five
> blade.<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
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18 years 9 months ago #302
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Ryan,
How much ground clearance did you have? Did it work out
for you at the distance you chose? Was your prop on the
same center line as the original onan?
Thanks
Dave R.
<tt>
Dave,<BR>
<BR>
I had the large 5' wheel and 12' tire mod. I did not have
9' of ground <BR>
clearance on the 52' prop. You can see that my VW engine
fit in the <BR>
original Q1 cowl. A direct drive VW engine will run @ 3200
rpm all day <BR>
depending on prop pitch. A VW bug on the highway at 65 mph
is turning <BR>
3250 rpm .<BR>
<BR>
I saw 135 mph with my 1915cc engine as a tail dragger and
125 as a tri-<BR>
gear. <BR>
<BR>
<BR>
At 2300 rpm you must have a long prop or a lot of
pitch.<BR>
<BR>
Ryan<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
--- In This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. , 'davedrosen'
<d2r@t...> wrote:<BR>
> Ryan (and others),<BR>
>?? I noticed on the quickiebuilders list you had a VW
with a 52' prop. <BR>
> Was that prop centerline higher than the onan center
line?? Did you <BR>
> have the bigger wheels? I put my bird with the prop
flange <BR>
> perendicular to the earth, subtracted 9' and got 50'
diameter. I'm <BR>
> figuring I will need to use this as my max if I want to
maintain the <BR>
> 9' clearance eaa recommends. I'm wondering is the
9'clearance a good <BR>
> value for this airplane, I'm thinking bouncing in a
landing etc?<BR>
> How many horses do you figure you had with the VW
running at 2300 <BR>
RPM? <BR>
> Was 120 your max speed with this set up?<BR>
> <BR>
> Thanks<BR>
> Dave R<BR>
> Q1<BR>
> Texas<BR>
> <BR>
> ----Lookin into props..... TYPE B, Powerfin, 4 or five
blade.<BR>
<BR>
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Replied by davedrosen on topic Q1_Aircraft: Re: [Q1_Aircraft] Re: Props
Ryan,
How much ground clearance did you have? Did it work out
for you at the distance you chose? Was your prop on the
same center line as the original onan?
Thanks
Dave R.
<tt>
Dave,<BR>
<BR>
I had the large 5' wheel and 12' tire mod. I did not have
9' of ground <BR>
clearance on the 52' prop. You can see that my VW engine
fit in the <BR>
original Q1 cowl. A direct drive VW engine will run @ 3200
rpm all day <BR>
depending on prop pitch. A VW bug on the highway at 65 mph
is turning <BR>
3250 rpm .<BR>
<BR>
I saw 135 mph with my 1915cc engine as a tail dragger and
125 as a tri-<BR>
gear. <BR>
<BR>
<BR>
At 2300 rpm you must have a long prop or a lot of
pitch.<BR>
<BR>
Ryan<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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<d2r@t...> wrote:<BR>
> Ryan (and others),<BR>
>?? I noticed on the quickiebuilders list you had a VW
with a 52' prop. <BR>
> Was that prop centerline higher than the onan center
line?? Did you <BR>
> have the bigger wheels? I put my bird with the prop
flange <BR>
> perendicular to the earth, subtracted 9' and got 50'
diameter. I'm <BR>
> figuring I will need to use this as my max if I want to
maintain the <BR>
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18 years 4 months ago #304
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Replied by davedrosen on topic Q1_Aircraft: Props
Ryan (and others),
I notice you have a 52' prop. Is it mounted higher than the origiral
Q. What is your ground clearance, when you were a tail dragger? How
many inches does the canard flex when bouncing a landing--not that
anyone does that. Thanks
Dave R.
Q1
Texas
Flying in 06
I notice you have a 52' prop. Is it mounted higher than the origiral
Q. What is your ground clearance, when you were a tail dragger? How
many inches does the canard flex when bouncing a landing--not that
anyone does that. Thanks
Dave R.
Q1
Texas
Flying in 06
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Replied by Tri-Q1 on topic Q1_Aircraft: Re: Props
Dave,
Yes, I run a 52' prop. that is standard for a 4 cylinder VW engine. It
gets a lot of rock chips due to being about 6' from the ground. I put
the engine centerline the same location as the Onan. In fact the Q1
cowl would enclose the engine except for the barrels and heads as seen
in my photos.
I feel strongly that keeping the original gear is an accident waiting
to happen. I have bounced many times and had a hard landing skidding
sideways to the point of breaking off my wheel pants and still no
canard fractures or damage. The wide gear will pull hard if you hit
some water while fast taxi or landing, a low tire, doesn't take much.
Start getting some taildragger time, you will need it.
Ryan
--- In This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. , 'davedrosen' <d2r@t...> wrote:
>
> Ryan (and others),
>
> I notice you have a 52' prop. Is it mounted higher than the origiral
> Q. What is your ground clearance, when you were a tail dragger? How
> many inches does the canard flex when bouncing a landing--not that
> anyone does that. Thanks
> Dave R.
> Q1
> Texas
>
> Flying in 06
>
Yes, I run a 52' prop. that is standard for a 4 cylinder VW engine. It
gets a lot of rock chips due to being about 6' from the ground. I put
the engine centerline the same location as the Onan. In fact the Q1
cowl would enclose the engine except for the barrels and heads as seen
in my photos.
I feel strongly that keeping the original gear is an accident waiting
to happen. I have bounced many times and had a hard landing skidding
sideways to the point of breaking off my wheel pants and still no
canard fractures or damage. The wide gear will pull hard if you hit
some water while fast taxi or landing, a low tire, doesn't take much.
Start getting some taildragger time, you will need it.
Ryan
--- In This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. , 'davedrosen' <d2r@t...> wrote:
>
> Ryan (and others),
>
> I notice you have a 52' prop. Is it mounted higher than the origiral
> Q. What is your ground clearance, when you were a tail dragger? How
> many inches does the canard flex when bouncing a landing--not that
> anyone does that. Thanks
> Dave R.
> Q1
> Texas
>
> Flying in 06
>
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