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Q-talk 139 - Checking In With HQ

Bruce Crain
Enid, OK - USA

Hi Dan!
I'm not sure I am the right guy for the article. . . [excuses deleted due to space considerations!] . . .So my best advice is "go get an adolescent and pay him or her something." Otherwise it may take a looooong time or may not work at all. This advise is of course for us "Older Folks."

Yes I am a dinosaur. But then how many other dinosaurs have built an aircraft? So maybe I am not that far off the "Cranial pursuit."

[Editor's Note] I edited Bruce's comments above to remove a very long list of excuses that he provided about not being young enough to figure out these new fangled computer gizmos! However, once I got him calmed down a bit, he proceeded to use said gizmo to submit an article for this very issue of Q-talk! Make sure you tell Bruce what a great job he did! You CAN teach a self-proclaimed "Old Dog" new tricks! Thanks Bruce, I look forward to working with you!


Alan Thayer
Livermore, CA - USA

Hey Dan,
Happy New Year! I've been around for years and years now, and you couldn't find a better bunch of people, as you have already found out... make a friend with a Quickie guy, and you got a friend for life!

Thanks so much, and thanks especially for stepping up to the plate to help us out with the technical expertise that we need to keep our terrific group alive and kicking! The e-mail list has been outstanding in keeping in touch, and i'm glad it is still intact, but i am looking forward to exploring your site, and how it can be used to post articles, etc., as a replacement for the newsletter.
Many thanks again for everything, and hope your New Year will be bright, safe, and healthy! Keep up the great work,

All the best.

P.S. I sure wish i had your skills for website design, i have my own opera company website, which i used a template for in its construction, but it is nowhere nearly as interactive as your's is... hats off to you, Dan! How do you learn this stuff????

[Editor's Note] Thanks Alan, I'm looking forward to seeing "the shorts" in person this year!


Chris Adkins
Ashland, KY - USA

Dan,
First of all, the work you've done here is phenomenal!!! Thanks for picking up the torch after Doug "retired." As you've already noticed, there are a lot of fantastic individuals in the Q-munity!

[Editor's Note] "Q-munity". . . Hope that's not copyrighted 'cause I am totally stealing that for use in future newsletters! Thanks for the kind words!


Dan Linehan
Monterey, CA - USA

Hey Dan,
My name is Dan Linehan. I did the book about SpaceShipOne. I'm doing a new book that covers a large number of Rutan designs. The Quickie will be one. I was trying to track down the current location of the prototype Quickie N54Q? If it is in a public place, I'd like to be able to steer people there.

[Editor's Note] Hi Dan, The quickie prototype is model 54 in the rutan design series, but I believe the "N" number is actually 77Q. Keep us posted on your book! FYI: Mr. Linehan quickly located the prototype in Seattle at The Museum of Flight, here's the link.


Paul Buckley
Cheshire, England

Hi Dan,
I have just registered with your site but I can't find a list of Q builders, as I could on the old site. How do I do that?
I am shortly about to visit NZ for several weeks and would like to make contact with any one there.
I could post a request on the list but I thought that this might be a better way.

[Editor's Note] The Member List is now in the "Member's Only" section of this website. I am making improvements and it will soon have more information about builders and flyers.


C. Keith Kerr
Postville, IA - USA

Hi Dan. Just checking to see if you will accept a personal check for membership dues. I can't get my Paypal account to work--identity mix-up. If you will send me an address I will mail you a check.
I have a Quickie 2, with 340 hr +, revmaster engine, not flying yet.
Thank You

[Editor's Note] Got your check, thanks for your membership support! I also added "Offline Payments" as an option to the sign-up page for people in a similar situation.


Fabio Mariani
Italy

Hi, my name is Fabio and I am an Italian Pilot (flight instructor), I was looking this beautiful airplane and I was wondering to built one in the next future. I read that the company is closed and there's no Kit to buy, is that correct? How can I build this ariplane? What kind of engine is suitable for it? Could You give me information about the way to build it in a proper way? Is it easy for a Person like me, with a past as home builder of Colibrì Mb2 airplane (all wood)? I would like to thank you for any information and suggestions You may give to me.
Merry Christmas and happy new year

[Editor's Note] So many questions from the new guys! That is why the Quickie Builders Association is here. . . to support each other as we tackle our projects. Many of these questions can be answered by perusing this website, and the remaining questions can be annswered in the forums or on the Q-list. Together we really do build better airplanes!


Bruce Bernath
Alma, MI - USA

Hey Dan! Thanks for the advice. I have posted my Protech Prostar PT-2C on Barnstormers for sale or trade for a flying Q200 or project. I hope I get some bites. Like most everyone else in Michigan I am tightening my belt financially so it is difficult for me to buy my dream outright. Thanks again for the pointers & I'll be sure to keep you posted.

[Editor's Note] Michigan isn't the only place with tighter belts! Good luck and keep us posted on your project!


John Henry Perez
Atlanta, GA - USA

Thanks Dan for the shirts. They are great! They also fit well. Am looking forward to your next installment. I am held up on the progress I’m making with my q1. Working on the house.

[Editor's Note] Glad you like the T-shirts! Keep at it, persistence pays off!


Agustín Millán
Spain

Hi Dan, how are you!

This is Agustin from Spain. I am a Spanish pilot with 10 years of experience. I have recently bought a Q2 unfinished kit from USA. As soon as I get back home (I am in a job trip right now), I will set up the 2010 payment. Thank you for your help!!! Best regards from Spain!!

[Editor's Note] Thanks Agustín, we look forward to hearing more about your project!


Roelof A.Goedhals
South Africa

I have read all there is to read in your Website regarding the Quickie projects etc. During 1983 I read in Sport Aviation the stories of the Quickie projects, became a member, to someday build my own, up to the demise of Leg-Air Aviation LTD.

Still with that thought in mind, I recently found your Website on the internet. Unfortunately this is the only E-Mail address I found. I hope this gets to you as I feel a personal interaction is necessary, esp. for foreign interest.

If possible answer me by return E-Mail.

[Editor's Note] The skeptic in me thinks this might be a scam, especially since he wanted to know my bank account information in another part of the e-mail. However, the optimist in me is glad that people worldwide are able to find the new website and do enough research on the site to make the scam e-mail at least sound believable!

 

 

Q-talk 119 - Cowl mod increases cooling and MPH for Revmaster Turbo

Hi Doug, I haven't contacted Q-Talk before, but wanted to share something I've come up with to increase engine cooling. I took the Cessna cooling lip concept and applied it to my Turbo Revmaster Q2 cowling and found it to dramatically reduce my CHT and EGT temps.

The fix is quite simple! I removed my cowl flap and fiber glassed a rounded lip onto the opening. The lip at the front is a modified football shaped opening and is 3/4" high, tapering to 1/2" at the back.

The result is as follows: Original CHT in climb reach about 410 to 425 degrees. With the new cooling lip installed my CHT is now 350 degrees in climb and 325 in cruise. My EGT was also affected as follows: Orignially 1300 degrees, now 1200. My oil tempture has reduced as well. My original 200 degree F. oil temp in climb out dropped about 10 to 20 degrees; now at about 180 degrees F. Of course that temp is dependent upon the outside temp.

My cruise speed has increased by about 9 kts because I don't have the drag of my cowl flap which acted as a speed brake. Originally when I closed the cowl flap I would pick up about 7- 9 kts, but my temp would rise to 210-225 degrees, which was not good.

The other mod I made was with the tail wheel. I installed a full swiveling tail wheel onto a 5/8" 4130 steel tube (used as the spring), wrapped with 8 layers of carbon fiber. I purchased the tail wheel from Aviation Products Inc. 114 Bryant St, Ojai, CA 93023, (805) 646-6042. With the self indenting tail wheel, the controllability was greatly increased. Forward visibility is also increased. I also formed a "U" shaped rudder horn (attached to the rudder) and ran the rudder cables to the modified rudder horn and then to the tail wheel, adding additional safety by maintaining rudder authority in case the tail wheel snaps off.

I now have 224 hours on my Q2, which is the tail wheel version, and it is a joy to fly! I have found nothing on the market which can compare with it.

I cruise at 156-160 mph at 2500 msl and have seen 201 mph at 11500 msl, not bad on 80 horse power! I burn 5 gal per hour (turbo takes more fuel). I've attached several photos if you think they are of some use. I enjoy the magazine and have learned much from all the builders who have submitted their experiences.

And thank you Richard for your article!



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Q-talk 110 - Featured Pilot Dave Richardson

This column is one that I always liked reading. I had met many of the featured pilots but did not know their background and how they came to the Quickie family. I always enjoyed getting to know the pilots a little better. When I took over as Q-Talk Editor, I knew this would be something I would continue. What better way to start than to feature our past editors, Dave & Susie Richardson. I remember meeting Dave and Susie at the 1994 Field of Dreams in Ottawa, KS (I can't believe it has been ten years ago). I also remember every time I saw them, they were together, and after my interview with them it all makes sense. They are a couple, and in my eyes a special couple. Soul mates if there is such a thing.

Dave tells the story of growing up in rural southeast Ohio, in the small town of Cambridge, "Where I-70 and I-77 meet". His earliest memories of airplanes are flying line controlled

airplanes in grade school. He became a "test pilot" at an early age. At his Grandmother's house one summer he met an older gentleman who found out Dave had flown line controlled airplanes before and invited him to "test" his new plane. The aircraft to be tested was much bigger than those Dave had flown before. So big, that it was pulling Dave around the circle and it took everything he could do to keep himself on the ground. Then suddenly the airplane crashed, but it wasn't because of Dave's lack of skill. One of the control lines broke and sent the aircraft to its fate. Flying line control aircraft led to RC flying and he built many aircraft with his father, who was an engineer by trade. He remembers a diamond shaped winged aircraft they made of plywood ribs and cardboard skin.

Dave got mechanical experience around the age of 14 when he and his brother bought a Triumph TR3 sports car. With the help of his dad, Dave rebuilt the engine, brakes, suspension and clutch. This was the car he was driving at age 16! He believes this experience to be invaluable for his Tri-Q project.

Dave's hobbies include music. He started out on the trombone and, in junior high, he started playing bass guitar. He still plays bass today in a church group which does a contemporary service to its congregation. The same group has provided the music to several plays as well. Dave may be a little shy about his singing voice, but it was obvious that Susie thought it was worth mentioning. I think she's been a groupie of Dave's for some time now. But more on that later. Dave and Susie are involved in their church and both sing in the choir. Dave believes strongly that his understanding of music helps him in his profession as a software programer/developer. He believes the logical patterns of music and software coding are similar. He has found that when hiring other programers, the best ones nearly always have a good understanding of music. Dave is a second degree black belt as well.

Programming also began as a hobby for Dave when he wrote a program for his dad's business within the year that they got their first computer. His formal education is a BS in Psychology and a Masters in Rehabilitation Counseling, working with handicapped individuals. He currently works for a small software company in Stow, Ohio where FoxPro is the tool of choice. He finds the counseling background comes in handy working between his company's clients and the software developers. (I'm tempted to work in a handicapped joke here, but I'll refrain).

Like many of us, Dave got the bug for the Quickies by seeing the yellow Q2 on the cover of Popular Science magazine in the early 1980's. But his dream of flying "the small-plane pilot's dream machine" would have to wait while he tended to other priorities like college. Then for Christmas in 1992, Susie gave him instruction books and an instructional flight as a gift. (Way to go Susie!) There was no looking back. He began his lessons the following year and had soloed by April. He had his ticket later that same year in August of 1993.

While the picture of the yellow Q2 got his heart to pumping, he realized it might be better to build a Dragonfly because there was still a company behind the product in the early 1990's. He had purchased the plans and was going through them to make the necessary changes to bring them up to date when his father stumbled onto a pilot in his hometown who had begun a Q2. Dave and Susie looked at it on Mother's Day and picked it up on Father's Day.

The aircraft was on its gear, in the tail dragger configuration. All of the flying components were done, but the finish work was not complete. There were no instruments or radios. Based on having no tail dragger time, Dave decided early on to convert to a Tri-Q .

His favorite part of the building process was the instrument panel. He enjoyed laying it out and says he is on his 4th iteration of the panel. He and his dad had built a Heath Kit TV when he was younger and that experience came in handy when he decided to build his own intercom for the Tri-Q. Those of you who came to the Field of Dreams fly-in last September will remember Dave describing how he designed and built a circuit board for his intercom. He promises an article on this subject in the future. He did want to point out that his homemade intercom actually works!

What is amazing to me is that Dave did all of the work in a one car garage. He did not have the tail on until the project went to paint. This proves that where there is a will (and a loving wife), there is a way . After ten years of building, his first flight came last year on August 7th.

As of this writing, Dave has 2.1 hours on his Tri-Q and his future plans are to convert the power plant to an O-200 as his finances allow. Looking back on what he would do differently, he says he thought outside the box on too many items and, thus wasted time that could have been spent on finishing the project. An example Dave gives is an angle of attack mechanism he worked on. He thought he was working on the plane, but realizes now it doesn't make the plane fly. Dave has a whole pile of these kinds of projects in the hanger that had nothing to do with completing the airplane. He cautions other builders to stick with what is known to work. Dave tried to reinvent several things and a couple flat out didn't work. For example, he designed his own reflexor mechanism. When he asked fellow QBA member and EAA Tech. Counselor, Terry Crouch to inspect it, Terry found a flaw that could have been disastrous.

Dave's mentor was Jerry Marstall. Jerry was just enough ahead of Dave on his own Tri-Q that he could remember how things were done. Dave spent numerous hours in the left seat of Jerry's Tri-Q getting flying experience before his first flight. Jerry is an instructor and likes flying from the right seat, which worked out great for Dave. His advice for all builders before flying your project, is to get as many hours in a similar aircraft as you can, even if its from the right seat.

The experience is invaluable. When asked about his favorite tool Dave chose the Dremel, but it was his cheap drill press that he said was invaluable as well. He found without it, he could not drill holes as precise or without them coming out looking like they had been chewed on.

Dave did "hit the wall" in his building experience and the project languished for several months before he would resume working on it. Dave says he couldn't have finished his project without the help of fellow QBA'ers and the Quickie Builders Association. Something you would expect a past Q-Talk Editor to say. But, without the friendships he has made and the fly-ins he attended, it just would not have been possible. He remembers a flight in Bob Malechek's Q-200 while attending a Field of Dreams Fly-in where he realized this little airplane was doing 205 mph with "two big fella's" on board. He was forever impressed.

As I sat eating supper with Dave and Susie during Sun 'N Fun, I was impressed with their relationship. Dave tells the story of how they were at a dance in Jr. High and he found himself smitten by Susie. Towards the end of the dance, he asked if he could walk her home. She said no! Dave was crushed. (Many of us have been there Dave.) Well, what Susie failed to mention was that she lived a couple of miles out of town! Information Dave could have used! Several years later, Dave was in a band and Susie became the groupie I spoke of earlier. They always fall for the guys in the band!

I mention their relationship because it is obvious to me that Susie supports Dave's project and does so with genuine love. These two people care for each other and their support for each other should be admired by everyone. Susie helped Dave as editor of Q-Talk during these past few years and we should all thank her for her efforts next time we see her.



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Q-talk 119 - Heard on the Q-list

I had the opportunity to high speed taxi Wes Isberg's Q200 Saturday before his first flight and would like to share some thoughts. Even though he did a fair job of controlling the plane down the runway, I found it very difficult to handle. I could not keep it straight either with rudder or his braking system or the combination. Wind was about 12K - 10-15 degrees off the nose. (Note: he has no bellcrank but has split the cables internally to rudder and tail wheel and has a modified dual differential finger brake system). Guess he didn't buy the Jim/Bob Six Pack Mod concept. My immediate response to him was to park the plane before he got hurt and fix the problem!

Now for the details. With just splitting the cables, Wes has no way to differentiate (detune) the angle of the tail wheel from the rudder. He's installed a modified dual finger brake that has a single stick that slides sideways to apply pressure to one master cylinder or the other or both. That is not good because its way to sensitive and hard to get positive results from known inputs. Further exacerbating the situation is his hand is on the brake and not the throttle when taking off or landing. Not a good thing!

How many serious tail draggers have anything other than toe brakes or heel brakes? Its just not natural to have finger brakes on a tail dragger and is to dangerous in my opinion. There are way to many things going on to be doing this additional "dance".

This leads me to a conclusion; the Q's with the sixpack mods installed, are really quite tame. Ask anyone who has them. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to do anything different. Yet we see it all the time. Most new Q pilots have a very difficult time handling their planes initially and often crack them up or have an incident even before the first flight. Because you didn't invent it, doesn't mean you can't copy it! The situation with Wes; here's a very intelligent fella sitting on a field with successful Q's all around, yet he chooses to do his own thing. Why? Too much additional cost? Too much additional labor? Doesn't have a clear understanding of the problem? Doesn't know how to fix it - I THINK NOT! I do not understand this!

This leads me to another conclusion. If Wes, sitting in the middle of LVK with sucessful planes all around, chooses to go a different route, what does that tell you about builders working on their own, isolated and out of touch? I now understand why this is not so simple and brace yourself fellas, we're in for more!

These comments are in no way intended to bring heat on Wes, but to simply make a couple of points as to why Q pilots are still smacking up their planes. Hopefully this turns on the lights for all those who don't want to get hurt.

So far, even in severe crosswinds, my plane has never deviated from the center line. Bingo! There is a reason!

Regards,

Jim Patillo N46JP Q200 800 hours in type.



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Q-talk 119 - QBA on the Grow

John Bingham - Leawood KS

Richard Hole - Vero Beach FL

Kevin Sheely - West Palm Beach Fl

Phil Marshall - Montpelier VT

Jonathan Kuehne - Woodland Hills CA

Jason Muscat - Huntington Beach CA

Kent Chandler - Woodstock CA



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